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exhilarationWhat of it?
:P
I TOLD YOU it would all be okay because there is a hand in a jar. I wasn't really expecting the hand to grow a new Doctor, though, although... I did half-expect him to regenerate and then cross his own timeline so that there would be two Doctors for a bit...
And you know... the Master had a hold of that hand for quite some time. Hope it's not contaminated with anything... :P
Okay then. This part had the same scattered and thin-spread feeling as it's first part, with so many companions in so many places. But at the same time, there were so many squee-worthy moments for just that reason, that I can't really list that as a fault.
I really, really loved watching them all pilot the TARDIS together. Is that really the first time the Doctor has said, in canon, that a TARDIS is meant to have six pilots, and that's why he runs around all crazy like that? Because I always thought that was just fanon. That and, isn't it canon that the TARDIS is actually meant to be flown telepathically and that the Doctor just prefers to do it manually?
Either way - I loved it. I just had this warm fuzzy "aw" moment for the Doctor. He's the only Time Lord in existence (except for his clone, I guess?) and he's flying the only TARDIS in existence, and even then, just this once, he's flying it one more time the way it was meant to be flown.
I was a little puzzled by how unphased everyone was by there being two Doctors. Ok, the Doctor is not that phased - he's used to running into himself. But everyone else just accepted it too? That was a bit odd.
Oh yeah, Jackie was not allowed to drive the TARDIS. Nice one.
The daleks have a death star, Davros is a prisoner, Dalek Caan pulled a bad wolf, blah blah blah... can we talk about the Doctor and Rose now? Cause I've been waiting for this for two years now and I still don't know what to think.
Superficially, we've got Rose and other!Doctor in the alternate universe, where he's supposed to just settle down with her and grow old quietly, just like they've always wanted except for I don't buy that. That was never Rose's dream, to settle down and have an ordinary life with the Doctor. Ordinary life never entered into it, and neither did settling down. That was a big part of what she loved about him, his spontaneity and his ability and power to just act on those impulses with no holds barred. What, are they supposed to have little half-Time Lord babies now, or something? I thought that was badbadbad, I thought we can't have half-human half Time Lord beings, they self destruct?
OH AND SPEAKING OF WHICH, did we forget that Eight told what's her name that he's half human on his mother's side? Or that's not canon anymore now?
Other!Doctor seriously and willingly exiled himself to an alternate universe as the boytoy of hardcore Torchwood!Rose with NO second heart, NO TARDIS, and a mortal lifespan.
NO TARDIS. He's going to lose his mind. He's going to drive Rose up a wall. This is not a happy ending. This is going to cause a hideous influx of fic I don't even want to think about.
And... look what the Doctor did, here. He didn't want to commit genocide. He hates violence and weapons and all that, and, hm, that is what his companions seem to do, the things he himself can't/won't... and who wiped out the Daleks (this time)? Oh, other!Doctor. So, then he could take the part of himself that could commit such a terrible act and banish him to the blimp!universe with Torchwood!Rose so he wouldn't have to have that act on his own conscience...
Yeah, it's stuff like that were the Doctor is very, very clearly an alien. Yes, yes he is.
Catherine Tate is amazingly talented and I am very sad to see her go. I'm happy she didn't die because too much heartbreak is just too much. It's very much a shame that she won't remember any of her adventures. But she did speak those condemning words, she did say "forever"....
Sigh.
I look forward to Mickey on Torchwood. I missed him. Martha I'm sort of indifferent to, actually. Her character is just not written as someone fans can really latch on to, or something.
Ah. Rose has no idea Jack can't die. Rose never knew Jack died in the first place, so she wasn't surprised to see him alive, and she didn't remember bringing him back and making him immortal. My Jack/Rose scene was so not what I wanted to see!
I guess maybe other!Doctor will tell her... ugh, I just cringe every time I think of a mortal Doctor in the alternate universe with no TARDIS...
So I'll have to make do with the Christmas specials and then the mini... movies, or whatever... and Torchwood until 2010. What is going to happen to the poor fandom? What is going to happen to meeeeeee?
Maybe the next season of Heroes will be really good, or something....
I'm kind of attempting a re-watch of Supernatural. I tried to get Erica into it, she didn't really pay much attention to it, and I really haven't watched the first season in a very long time and was kind of shocked by how different it is from the rest of the show. And how forced some of the acting was, especially in the first half of the season.
Meh. I'm sure I'll find something to watch.
:P
I TOLD YOU it would all be okay because there is a hand in a jar. I wasn't really expecting the hand to grow a new Doctor, though, although... I did half-expect him to regenerate and then cross his own timeline so that there would be two Doctors for a bit...
And you know... the Master had a hold of that hand for quite some time. Hope it's not contaminated with anything... :P
Okay then. This part had the same scattered and thin-spread feeling as it's first part, with so many companions in so many places. But at the same time, there were so many squee-worthy moments for just that reason, that I can't really list that as a fault.
I really, really loved watching them all pilot the TARDIS together. Is that really the first time the Doctor has said, in canon, that a TARDIS is meant to have six pilots, and that's why he runs around all crazy like that? Because I always thought that was just fanon. That and, isn't it canon that the TARDIS is actually meant to be flown telepathically and that the Doctor just prefers to do it manually?
Either way - I loved it. I just had this warm fuzzy "aw" moment for the Doctor. He's the only Time Lord in existence (except for his clone, I guess?) and he's flying the only TARDIS in existence, and even then, just this once, he's flying it one more time the way it was meant to be flown.
I was a little puzzled by how unphased everyone was by there being two Doctors. Ok, the Doctor is not that phased - he's used to running into himself. But everyone else just accepted it too? That was a bit odd.
Oh yeah, Jackie was not allowed to drive the TARDIS. Nice one.
The daleks have a death star, Davros is a prisoner, Dalek Caan pulled a bad wolf, blah blah blah... can we talk about the Doctor and Rose now? Cause I've been waiting for this for two years now and I still don't know what to think.
Superficially, we've got Rose and other!Doctor in the alternate universe, where he's supposed to just settle down with her and grow old quietly, just like they've always wanted except for I don't buy that. That was never Rose's dream, to settle down and have an ordinary life with the Doctor. Ordinary life never entered into it, and neither did settling down. That was a big part of what she loved about him, his spontaneity and his ability and power to just act on those impulses with no holds barred. What, are they supposed to have little half-Time Lord babies now, or something? I thought that was badbadbad, I thought we can't have half-human half Time Lord beings, they self destruct?
OH AND SPEAKING OF WHICH, did we forget that Eight told what's her name that he's half human on his mother's side? Or that's not canon anymore now?
Other!Doctor seriously and willingly exiled himself to an alternate universe as the boytoy of hardcore Torchwood!Rose with NO second heart, NO TARDIS, and a mortal lifespan.
NO TARDIS. He's going to lose his mind. He's going to drive Rose up a wall. This is not a happy ending. This is going to cause a hideous influx of fic I don't even want to think about.
And... look what the Doctor did, here. He didn't want to commit genocide. He hates violence and weapons and all that, and, hm, that is what his companions seem to do, the things he himself can't/won't... and who wiped out the Daleks (this time)? Oh, other!Doctor. So, then he could take the part of himself that could commit such a terrible act and banish him to the blimp!universe with Torchwood!Rose so he wouldn't have to have that act on his own conscience...
Yeah, it's stuff like that were the Doctor is very, very clearly an alien. Yes, yes he is.
Catherine Tate is amazingly talented and I am very sad to see her go. I'm happy she didn't die because too much heartbreak is just too much. It's very much a shame that she won't remember any of her adventures. But she did speak those condemning words, she did say "forever"....
Sigh.
I look forward to Mickey on Torchwood. I missed him. Martha I'm sort of indifferent to, actually. Her character is just not written as someone fans can really latch on to, or something.
Ah. Rose has no idea Jack can't die. Rose never knew Jack died in the first place, so she wasn't surprised to see him alive, and she didn't remember bringing him back and making him immortal. My Jack/Rose scene was so not what I wanted to see!
I guess maybe other!Doctor will tell her... ugh, I just cringe every time I think of a mortal Doctor in the alternate universe with no TARDIS...
So I'll have to make do with the Christmas specials and then the mini... movies, or whatever... and Torchwood until 2010. What is going to happen to the poor fandom? What is going to happen to meeeeeee?
Maybe the next season of Heroes will be really good, or something....
I'm kind of attempting a re-watch of Supernatural. I tried to get Erica into it, she didn't really pay much attention to it, and I really haven't watched the first season in a very long time and was kind of shocked by how different it is from the rest of the show. And how forced some of the acting was, especially in the first half of the season.
Meh. I'm sure I'll find something to watch.
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Date: 2008-07-06 08:03 am (UTC)That was a nice moment.
Eight and canon. I never saw Eight. I tried, I got about 20 mins into it, but it just wasn't DW for me. I don't know why, and that was a really long time ago so maybe if I tried again now I'd like it.
So I don't know much about his adventure, but I do know back when NuWho started a lot of ppl didn't consider it canon, and there were big discussions about what number Nine actually was.
Obviously everyone's now come together and accepted Eight because we ALL speak of Nine and Ten.
But RTD may not be as familiar with Eight as he is One through Seven?
I don't know, I'm just speculating ::shrugs::
So I'll have to make do with the Christmas specials and then the mini... movies, or whatever... and Torchwood until 2010. What is going to happen to the poor fandom? What is going to happen to meeeeeee?
Word! ::whimpers::
btw... THE HAND! *heee*
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Date: 2008-07-06 01:45 pm (UTC)It was also American, which threw people from the get-go, cause, c'mon, Who is a British show, how can Americans produce it and come up with the same thing? Aaaaannnndddd let's see, according to the movie, Seven died in a hospital in California because they couldn't figure out why he had two hearts and ended up killing him because they didn't realize he wasn't human, and he regenerated in a morgue away from his TARDIS and woke up with amnesia, and then later said he was "half human on his mother's side."
I know a lot of people dismiss the movie but... I guess technically is is canon, I mean, this isn't the first time Who has contradicted itself, right?
And Paul McGann, the actor who played Eight, is still playing Eight in the audio shows, and Eight is a totally messed up Doctor, always crossing his own timeline and stuff because he doesn't remember where and when he's already been. So basically, there's a whole other storyline out there going on with Eight that takes place after the movie but before the Time War, and it has still it was never actually been revealed how Eight regenerated into Nine, except we know that it must have been right before the episode "Rose" cause he was checkin' out his reflection.